What is a Carnal Christian? Part 1 of 3

Without exception, every Christian believer truly thinks that they are spiritual. Whether a newborn Christian or mature in the Word for many years, all Christian believers truly believe that they are spiritual. It’s what all of us have been taught. We are alive in Christ. We are bound for heaven. No power in heaven or hell can pluck the believer from the hand of Christ. We are all sealed with Holy Spirit and by this Spirit, we know we are bound for heaven. Glory hallelujah, praise God, Amen. Everything is grand, life is wonderful, and we believe we are eternally secure in the hands of Jesus.

But when we must place our trust in God and His Word implicitly, the problems begin. Fear sets in. What if I am listening to the wrong spirit? What kind of spirit does God give? What if I’m doing something my church doesn’t believe? Do I need to check my pastor first? How do I know that God is speaking to me? Should I act on the things the spirit inspires me to do? What if the spirit told me to do something immoral, illegal, or ungodly? Would God tell me to raise someone up from the dead? Am I supposed to live like Jesus? Am I supposed to quote scriptures? What if I make a mistake? What if I’m not qualified? What if I’m not trained? What if I’m not licensed to do God’s will?

How do I know if any or all of these questions will come to an average Christian’s mind? They all came to mine or they were all at one point or another posed to me by someone else. The pressure to do what’s right and avoid doing something wrong is always present. In fact, it is such a constant part of the average Christian’s life that we simply take it for granted that living in fear is normal, but we don’t call it “fear,” we call it “living under proper authority.” Meaning the authority of the men and women of the church and everyone else in positions of authority over our lives. The desires and opinions of our parents, teachers, bosses, government authorities, doctors, and scientists take full and complete precedence over our lives at every turn. We unconsciously place our needs, wants, and desires second in every way, especially when it comes to our relationship with our heavenly Father. We can’t be expected to obey a spirit we cannot see or feel above the men and women of authority we see with our own eyes and hear with our ears. This is what we are all taught in church; to submit to the powers that be. But this form of submission is not entirely what the Word of God teaches. Look here:

Hebrews 11: 6 “But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”

If we desire to please God, we have to have faith. But it’s hard to know how to have or live in faith without examples of faith we can copy in our lives. Sure, the Bible provides many examples in the days of old, but what about today. What about the examples of walking in faith with God that we can all copy and learn from in our churches. We have to learn where to place our faith and on whom our faith rests upon. In order to understand where this faith is placed, we have to look a few verses earlier.

Hebrews 11: 3 “Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”

The first thing we need to realize concerning where we place our faith from this verse is to place it firmly on God’s Word. But not the written Word. When the worlds were framed, God’s Word was NOT written. That didn’t happen until after the Exodus with Moses. Until that happened, God’s Word was always His “Revelation Word” spoken by His Spirit. This is a very hard concept for a carnal, religious Christian to accept because we were all drilled to accept only the written Word of God as THE STANDARD OF TRUTH. As the standard of TRUTH, this is absolutely right and proper, the written Word of God is our only check and balance to confirm God’s revelation Word by the Holy Spirit. But the written Word of God came second. The first and primary Word of God comes to His people by the Spirit.

BUT WALKING IN FAITH BY THE HOLY SPIRIT IS TOO MUCH OF A CHANGE FOR MOST CHRISTIANS, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT BYPASSES LOGIC, REASON, AND EVERY SENSUAL INPUT OF THE FLESH EXCEPT THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD’S WRITTEN WORD. UNFORTUNATELY, MOST OF US SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW HIS WRITTEN WORD. WE ONLY KNOW THE TRADITIONS AND DOCTRINAL TEACHINGS OF OUR CHOSEN CHURCHES.

We are always learning the written Word in light of our church doctrine, in light of character development, and in light of living morally right, but rarely or never in light of building a practical, spiritual walk of faith with God. We are doing this:

2 Timothy 3: 7 “Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

Though the written Word of God is the truth, we are learning the truth only as it applies to our physical lives and the way we deal with people. We look at the Word only to see how to build our character and live morally sound lives according to the Law of Moses and the teachings of our church. Along the way, we learn to judge one another according to the standard of the law. We learn to believe what we see with our eyes, hear with our ears, and feel with our emotions, but that is nothing different from what we’ve learned from the time we were born. Though well meaning and with good intentions, our Bible teachers taught us in the same manner that they were taught. Living a “spiritual” life is to live a moral life with good character in obedience to the rules of the church and the laws of the land. But anyone can live a moral life and learn good character, these are things that can be learned without God and even without Jesus Christ in a person’s life. It is the Holy Spirit that sets us apart from the rest of the world but too many us are afraid of the very Spirit that Jesus sent as God’s gift to His children.

The spiritual walk with the power and authority of God is unknown among believers and the leadership of the church is assumed to live and walk in God’s spiritual power and authority. But since they can only teach what they know, they also teach that good morals and good character are “spiritual” matters. The problem is this, God’s power isn’t activated by good morals and good character, people who reject God and Jesus Christ altogether can have good morals and good character. They even learn how to walk spiritually with other spirits besides God and without Jesus. Our problem is simple, the majority of Christian leadership have rejected the practice and understanding of Holy Spirit matters. In addition we’ve completely avoided the sections of the Bible that address spiritual matters. (How many of you have studied 1 Corinthians 12, 13, and 14 as a combined unit in church?)

So when we find ourselves in a situation that requires God’s power in action, we are lost as to what we should do. Being lost, we harbor doubts whether God will really act on our behalf. We wonder if we really have enough faith or believing in God. Then, when nothing happens or our prayers aren’t answered, we begin to doubt whether or not God is real. It’s absolutely right and fair for us to ask this one simple question, (and I’ve even asked it myself): If God is real, and I’m following the rules I’ve been taught, why do I still get wrong results? This question brought me to the point of realizing that religious instruction was powerless and really didn’t point me to God directly, but indirectly through the church first. Church leadership is the carnal Christian’s proxy, or substitute, for God Almighty. We pray to God in Jesus’ name while placing our trust in the words of men. Then we wonder why our results are hit and miss, mostly miss.

If the believer never gets to the point where they must ask this question, they may never feel the need to build a personal, spiritual relationship with God directly. They will remain secure in their indirect relationship with the church instead and never build a direct relationship with God. Why fix something that isn’t broken? As long as they are getting good results in life, by following the rules of men, they have no reason to seek a relationship with a heavenly Father. What the carnal Christian, (who lives only by the flesh and ignores the Spirit), doesn’t realize is one important truth. They are in danger of hearing this one key statement from Jesus Christ himself, when they see Him face to face for the first time, because they never made Jesus Christ their personal Lord spiritually.

Matthew 7: 21 – 23 “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”

If the only way to please God is to walk in faith, (Heb 11: 6), but we place our faith in the words of men, (religion), the entire Trinity is removed from our Christian walk. We need to understand who we need to place our faith upon according to Hebrews 11: 6. Do we place our faith upon the words of men and religious doctrine? Or do we place our faith upon God by making Jesus Christ our Lord when we obey the revelation Word from the Holy Spirit? The answer to that question is found later in the same chapter.

Hebrews 11: 39, 40 “And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.”

All of the people mentioned in the chapter placed their faith in God. They all believed in the spiritual revelation of God’s promise to them of the future Messiah and lived according to that promise. But we received a better thing than they did. We are able to become whole in Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit. Something they were never able to receive, yet the average believer in Jesus Christ is never shown how God works within them through the Holy Spirit. So we are left to figure it all out alone without any help at all. The leadership of the Christian church is still in the same position as Nicodemus when he talked to Jesus in John chapter 3.

John 3: 10 “Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?”

Our leaders and teachers are masters of religion, but struggle with spiritual matters. To the degree they struggle with spiritual matters, their students also struggle with spiritual matters. There are teachers who know how God works within them. Their struggle is to communicate what they know to others. Because God works with every individual in a different manner, none of us are really able to use personal examples as doctrinal rules of practice. So we are left with the questions posed in the opening paragraph and here are the answers.

  1. What if I am listening to the wrong spirit? This is always a possibility and the reason why we are told to try or test the spirits. 1 John 4: 1 “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” There are many false spirits in the world. Only the Holy Spirit from God can pass the test of the written Word. But that is also why every believer of God needs to know God’s written Word themself.
  2. What kind of Spirit does God give? John 14: 7 “Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.” 2 Timothy 1: 7 “For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.” John 14: 26 “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.” John 14: 22, 23 “Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of truth, power, love, a sound mind, it is God and Jesus Christ living within the believer, and the way that Jesus Christ makes Himself known to the believer.
  3. What if I’m doing something my church doesn’t believe? There is no doubt that all church doctrines are a mixture of truth and error, but we are charged with learning how to discern truth from error individually. 1 John 4: 6 “We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.” The spirit of error cannot receive the truth, but the spirit of truth seeks and will receive the truth.
  4. Do I need to check my pastor first? When you are in a situation where God gives you revelation knowledge, there is generally no time to double check with anyone. This is why you need to have some knowledge of God’s Word already. However, God gives us all, this promise in His Word. 1 Corinthians 10: 13 “There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.” Our ability is directly related to the amount of the written Word we know and our direct experience with God by the Holy Spirit. God knows how much we know and He protects us against the devil. The devil is limited by God to tempt us only to the extent that we are able to resist that temptation and escape from it.
  5. How do I know that God is speaking to me? The first answer you receive to any question given to God will always come from God. He is always the first to answer because He is above all and in every believer of Christ. Ephesians 4: 6 “One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.” When you ask anything from God, whether by prayer or by the Holy Spirit, God is always the first to answer. He is first because He lives within you and any other spirit that may try to deceive you must answer from the outside and try to introduce doubts about the revelation you received from God.
  6. Should I act on the things the spirit inspires me to do? This is what the walk of faith is all about. But the faith has to be firmly anchored on both God’s Word and God’s inspiration in your own personal life experience. Matthew 6: 33 “But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.” What things? The things of the flesh that consume our daily lives. As we work to keep our spiritual life, our relationship with God, strong and recognizable, His revelation Word will warn us and keep our physical lives safe.
  7. What if the spirit told me to do something immoral, illegal, or ungodly? If any revelation from a spirit would tell you to do anything like this, it would be breaking the Word of God and Jesus Himself made this statement in John 10: 35c “and the scripture cannot be broken;” So we can be certain that God would never tell His children to do something that breaks His own Word. This revelation has to come from a deceiving spirit that is NOT of God. Since we know that God will not allow us to be tempted beyond what we are able to endure and resist, there is no excuse for a believer that obeys that sort of spiritual revelation. They already know enough truth to discern the folly of following such a wicked and deceptive spiritual revelation.
  8. Would God tell me to raise someone up from the dead? It’s possible, but that will only come after we’ve already shown our faithfulness to Him in small matters of obedience in the Holy Spirit first. John 16: 10 “He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.” This verse isn’t only talking about the things of the flesh and our obedience in the flesh, but also about the true riches of God that comes by the Holy Spirit. The riches in glory that comes from obedience to God directly. It is God that builds our faith in Him as we learn to hear and recognize His voice in our heart and act in obedience to that voice in accordance to the written Word.
  9. Am I supposed to live like Jesus? If we were to live like Jesus, we would have to obey all the Law of Moses like He did. Jesus did not come to minister to the Gentiles as the majority of us are. He came to minister to the children of Israel and specifically to those of the tribe of Judeans. Because we are children of God, our obedience is to God first in every manner of life. As Jesus obeyed God in everything He did, this is our finest example. Luke 16: 13 “No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” So, to the extent that we are obeying God, we are copying Jesus’ example and making Him our Lord. It has nothing to do with walking in sandals, wearing a tunic, or riding a donkey.
  10. Am I supposed to quote scriptures? This is an individual thing, but when we are trying to reach the world with the truth and encourage people to look to God, quoting scripture is less important than living the truth. We should be living reflections of the God we say we love and serve. 1 Corinthians 8: 3 “But if any man love God, the same is known of him.” If we were to use Jesus own example, He taught using parables and examples of life around Him in addition to His knowledge of scripture.
  11. What if I make a mistake? Let’s be honest, none of us is God, so all of us will make many mistakes. There was only one person in all of history that was truly innocent of any and all wrongdoing, and He was crucified. Matthew 27: 3, 4 “Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.” We are the reason for his life, death, resurrection, ascension, and the sending of the Holy Spirit. God knows we are weak, yet He still loves us and sent His son to die for us. Romans 5: 8 “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”
  12. What if I’m not qualified? Our qualification comes from God, not men. Revelation 1: 6 “And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.” Acts 10: 42 “And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.” We are commanded to preach and teach of Jesus and neither church nor government can stop us from obeying God and acting upon His revelation.
  13. What if I’m not trained? Simon the Sorcerer asked how much money it would take to gain the ability to minister like Peter. The training comes by the Spirit of God. Acts 8: 20 “But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.”
  14. What if I’m not licensed to do God’s will? This relates back to question #11, but it is in reference to authorization by the government. 1 Thessalonians 2: 4 “But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.” Living the truth in love doesn’t require any authorization from any man, and every believer has the right to say anything God inspires them to say as long as it aligns with the written Word they know.

UNTIL A CARNAL CHRISTIAN RECEIVES REVELATION FROM GOD, TESTS THAT REVELATION AGAINST THE WRITTEN WORD, AND ACTS UPON THAT SPIRITUAL REVELATION TO BUILD THEIR OWN PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD ALMIGHTY, THAT BELIEVER REMAINS CARNAL AND FIRMLY ANCHORED IN LOGIC AND REASON. IT REQUIRES A LEAP OF FAITH TO TRUST GOD AT HIS WORD AND BEGIN YOUR OWN PERSONAL SPIRITUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.

There is nothing hard or strange about living in faith with God, when you’ve built a spiritual relationship with your heavenly Father. But it is impossible to live in faith with God when you are afraid to trust anything besides your own intelligence and logic. Being a carnal Christian is not a bad thing, it is where we all start our walk with God. It’s only a problem when a believer chooses not to live by the Spirit, but by their own understanding and intelligence instead. This walk of faith in the Holy Spirit is taking the believer’s walk to the next level of maturity and truly making Jesus Christ their Lord as well as their Savior.

It is the difference between serving God through our obedience to men to serving God by our obedience to Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit. It doesn’t mean that we cast off our love and allegiance to the church. It means our love and service in the church will be done by our obedience to God, His written and revelation Word, and in the Holy Spirit given by Christ. We will no longer believe in God with the hope that we are pleasing Him. We will know that we are pleasing Him because we know His voice in our heart and have no doubt that He loves us and takes care of us. Our trust will be firmly placed on God by our relationship to Him spiritually. Finally, we will never fear facing Him directly. Our relationship with Jesus will already be firmly established long before that moment arrives. This is the whole reason why I believe God wanted me to write “Rules for Radical Christians: A Practical Primer for Defeating Radical Liberals at Their Own Game.”

I couldn’t learn the things in that book by attending one church all the days of my life. I couldn’t learn it from attending only the mainline, conservative, acceptable, and denominational church. I couldn’t learn it from my association with the Pentecostal church, a religious cult, and attending two different Christian colleges. Learning how to walk in faith required learning how to trust God directly. No matter what you name the Christian group, as long as it requires you to trust the words of men over the Word of God, it is pointing the believer towards religious obedience to the church instead of obedience in faith to God. Nobody could communicate a process that would lead a person who is searching for “truth” into a full, faith, relationship with God through the Holy Spirit. In every Christian group, the written Word of God is filtered through the teachings and traditions of men first. The book is NOT a collection of doctrinal teachings. It is the communication of a process that will lead into a spiritual relationship.

Radical Liberals already know this process. New Age teachings have been revealing their process since the 1920’s. They’ve been praying to their gods for the overthrow of our Christian culture ever since. Do you need proof? Read the writings of Alice A Bailey. Have you noticed the great push towards Socialism lately? Ever wondered where that social doctrine came from? Check out Karl Marx and his story. Both of these people were Christians that rejected Christianity and turned to a different spiritual lord. Who is the last key to the demise of America? Look no farther than Saul Alinsky and his connection to Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. His book and lectures revealed the process that has brought all sorts of social reforms since 1949. He identified his lord to a reporter just a few weeks before he died. His choice for an eternal home was hell.

Did we need to make some changes? Yes! But some of the changes led our culture away from God and the source for those ideas came from spiritual sources that were not Godly. These ideas were adopted with the support of many good, religious Christians who could not discern spiritual matters. Like the way Eve was deceived by the serpent, bad ideas are not accepted openly, but subtly. Bad ideas develop over time, but always sound good and logical at the beginning. If you like what is happening to our culture and believe that turning away from God is good, maybe my book and this blog are the wrong fit. But if you believe that turning our culture back to God is the right answer let me assure you of one thing. Turning our culture back to God begins with turning our own lives to face God first.

If you want to please God, the process begins with you and your personal relationship with God. I had to learn that I needed to change the focus of my life from pleasing people to pleasing God too. We don’t have time to lose. Though Christian religion isn’t entirely, spiritually right, it isn’t entirely, spiritually wrong either. God works with you from within your set of beliefs first, then leads you into more and more “truth” over time and experience with Him. The speed by which you transform from carnal Christianity to spiritual faith in God is determined by you. It can take you until you’re 60 years old if you have to figure out the process alone, or you can begin within a week with a direction and a process. Liberals have their process to encourage and bring about radical reforms. My book reveals their process step by step and how we, as Christians walking in faith with God, can overcome their process step by step.

This has been one of the most difficult posts I’ve ever written. Just as it’s been difficult to learn how to build a relationship with a real, but invisible God. But if you love God and want to please God, it’s vital to build a personal, spiritual relationship with Him. If you care about what’s happening in the world around you and want to become a change agent for God, then you need to build a personal, spiritual relationship with Him. I believe God has given me a very simple ministry: Help everyone I meet come to a point of decision. Do you want to allow your faith to stand in the wisdom of men like the majority of Carnal Christians? Or do you want your faith to stand in the power of God and be a Radical Christian?

1 Corinthians 2: 5 “That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.”

The process is always the same. It’s the details that are different. The details are between you and God alone. Do you want to know the process? You can know the entire process that will build a lifelong relationship with Jesus. You can really make Jesus Christ your personal Lord. Religious Christianity led you to Jesus Christ and your salvation, the purpose of my book is to show you how to make Him your Lord. That’s all I have to offer. Are you radical enough to bite? Religion has truly failed the world. I believe only a true, spiritual relationship with God is the only answer for a Christian believer’s survival in a culture of evil and our world’s survival against a spiritual onslaught of evil against God.

Published by Power House Institute

I am a retired full time power plant mechanic. I am also a Radical Christian follower of God with 48 years of volunteer ministry service and training. I hold a degree as an Associate of Biblical Theology, and a Bachelor of Practical Ministry. I have volunteer experience as an Evangelist, property manager, set builder, stage electrician, musician, singer, conference security, food service distribution manager, and a former associate pastor for New Revelation Christian Development Center in Smyrna, TN. I am the founder of Power House Institute and Ministry and the author of Rules for Radical Christians: A Practical Primer for Defeating Radical Liberals at Their Own Game. I believe every born again Christian has the ability interact with God Almighty by way of His Holy Spirit and this is Radical Christianity. It is my mission to encourage and empower spiritual greatness in every Christian believer, no matter which brand of Christianity they choose to follow. By doing so, change the world around us, and the culture we live within. I believe Radical Christians are part of every Christian church in the world. If we want to restore morality, Radical Christians are the only answer for recovery. I want my book and this blog become a powerful and winning influence against Atheist liberalism. We can restore our culture through the combined power and influence of God at work in the lives of Radical Christians everywhere.

3 thoughts on “What is a Carnal Christian? Part 1 of 3

    1. Thank you, I hope you will like more of these postings, but I also know that I may, (at times), be a little blunt and offensive. The real purpose of my blog is to encourage you to build a personal and direct relationship with God Almighty. God sent Jesus to pay the price of redemption non of us could ever pay. Jesus own blood on the cross along with a life without sin paid the ransom for all mankind to allow us to get the Holy Spirit at the new birth. All any of us need is a little encouragement to trust God and His Spirit in us to build our relationship with Him. I hope and pray that I can be one of those people who can be an encouragement to you.

      Like

Leave a Reply

Please log in using one of these methods to post your comment:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

%d bloggers like this: